amulchandra
09-14 05:27 PM
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
I am really sorry to say that you are totally wrong. Do you know that high demand very well paid jobs also fall into EB3 category. Example Pharmacists fall into EB3(for whom there is a very huge demand in US due to aging population) .
It is not easy to get a Pharmacist license. They need a degree in pharmacy(Equivalent to Pharm D in US) . If he/she is a foreign graduate he/she has to go through national level TSE/TOEFL, FPGEE , NAPLEX and state level Jurisprudence exams. A total of 5 exams and 1600-2000 hours of internship.Even US citizens think twice to go pharmacy colleges because it is really expensive to pay the fee.
This is just an example and this is our personal experience.
I am really sorry to say that you are totally wrong. Do you know that high demand very well paid jobs also fall into EB3 category. Example Pharmacists fall into EB3(for whom there is a very huge demand in US due to aging population) .
It is not easy to get a Pharmacist license. They need a degree in pharmacy(Equivalent to Pharm D in US) . If he/she is a foreign graduate he/she has to go through national level TSE/TOEFL, FPGEE , NAPLEX and state level Jurisprudence exams. A total of 5 exams and 1600-2000 hours of internship.Even US citizens think twice to go pharmacy colleges because it is really expensive to pay the fee.
This is just an example and this is our personal experience.
skark
03-05 08:09 AM
On our 485's and my AP over the last 3 days...pd->aug 02
shantak
07-18 01:33 PM
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GC_Applicant
07-17 11:02 PM
I am in Orange County. Count Me in.
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yabadaba
11-15 02:30 PM
^^^^
skakodker
03-01 10:49 AM
[You are relatively at peace because your PD is 2005 and you are in EB2.
Moreover since you are already filed 485 and its more than 6 months you are secure.
For rest the situation is precarious
As it relates to my green card application, my situation is relatively better than some. If you search my previous posts, you will note my similar expression of frustration a few months/years ago. I don't want to go into the details behind how justifiable my frustration felt at the time - those are facts that I can do nothing about.
So I gave up and quickly made plans to return to our homeland. I was lucky to have a moment of clarity about a month before pulling any triggers because shortly thereafter, I read Lance Armstrong's book - "It's Not About the Bike". "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl was another very inspring work for me. I have since read many books on similar subjects - some good and some not so good - but more importantly, I now believe, with all my heart, that how I feel is entirely up to me. Not only is it just up to me, I am 100% accountable for it.
I am not saying you shouldn't express your feelings or seek the comfort of friends when you want to. I am simply offering some details around what works for me and why I am not as frustrated as I once was.
My green card "struggle" - if you can call it that - no longer impedes my ability to enjoy this moment. There are more people-including children-facing far more significant challenges across all walks of life. I accept my green card situation for what it is. I work everyday on what I ought to be doing and strive to leave doubt and worry behind (per Huxley's age old advice). This works for me.
I would love nothing more for it to work for everyone.
Best,
Sunil
Moreover since you are already filed 485 and its more than 6 months you are secure.
For rest the situation is precarious
As it relates to my green card application, my situation is relatively better than some. If you search my previous posts, you will note my similar expression of frustration a few months/years ago. I don't want to go into the details behind how justifiable my frustration felt at the time - those are facts that I can do nothing about.
So I gave up and quickly made plans to return to our homeland. I was lucky to have a moment of clarity about a month before pulling any triggers because shortly thereafter, I read Lance Armstrong's book - "It's Not About the Bike". "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl was another very inspring work for me. I have since read many books on similar subjects - some good and some not so good - but more importantly, I now believe, with all my heart, that how I feel is entirely up to me. Not only is it just up to me, I am 100% accountable for it.
I am not saying you shouldn't express your feelings or seek the comfort of friends when you want to. I am simply offering some details around what works for me and why I am not as frustrated as I once was.
My green card "struggle" - if you can call it that - no longer impedes my ability to enjoy this moment. There are more people-including children-facing far more significant challenges across all walks of life. I accept my green card situation for what it is. I work everyday on what I ought to be doing and strive to leave doubt and worry behind (per Huxley's age old advice). This works for me.
I would love nothing more for it to work for everyone.
Best,
Sunil
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JunRN
05-15 11:20 PM
Thanks for your wishes.
I agree with you regarding the timeline and evidence. I have mentioned it to my attorney numerous times. My attorney was insistent that adjudicating officers can see all my info on their computer screens. It is only a matter of looking at the info correctly.
It looks like the first MTR went to the same IO who denied my I-485. I could say it from ID in both the denial letters.
Sometimes lawyers are used to their old ways of doing things. However, IOs are not the same people of the old. Most IOs are new hires and still in their learning curve.
I think the problem with your info. on USCIS screen is that the previously approved I-140 was changed to "denied" on same date it was approved. USCIS probably didn't have a log of the change.
The only evidence to prove that it was "approved" before is your copy of approval notice and it seems they don't believe the legitimacy of your copy. USCIS relied solely in their faulty database system.
Did you have a screen capture of the I-140 approval in CRIS? I screened captured mine just in case because it's another proof that one point in time, I-140 was approved.
I agree with you regarding the timeline and evidence. I have mentioned it to my attorney numerous times. My attorney was insistent that adjudicating officers can see all my info on their computer screens. It is only a matter of looking at the info correctly.
It looks like the first MTR went to the same IO who denied my I-485. I could say it from ID in both the denial letters.
Sometimes lawyers are used to their old ways of doing things. However, IOs are not the same people of the old. Most IOs are new hires and still in their learning curve.
I think the problem with your info. on USCIS screen is that the previously approved I-140 was changed to "denied" on same date it was approved. USCIS probably didn't have a log of the change.
The only evidence to prove that it was "approved" before is your copy of approval notice and it seems they don't believe the legitimacy of your copy. USCIS relied solely in their faulty database system.
Did you have a screen capture of the I-140 approval in CRIS? I screened captured mine just in case because it's another proof that one point in time, I-140 was approved.
Macaca
09-11 12:11 PM
Just made contribution of 500$
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No person was ever honored for
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polapragada
09-13 09:42 PM
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
I completly agree with you.... and others supported the similar thoughts in the thread gave the gree from you all
If they want to jump to EB2 they should not not be allowed to port the PD.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
I completly agree with you.... and others supported the similar thoughts in the thread gave the gree from you all
If they want to jump to EB2 they should not not be allowed to port the PD.
immi_seeker
10-01 03:04 PM
My impression was that USCIS calculated the possible number of cases that would be ready to be assigned a visa (means all the name check and other formalities finished) , before a month and the first PD that will not get a VISA will be the cutoff date for the bulletin for that month.
If the USCSI didnt have enough applications to be assigned the VISA , then why are they so conservative in making the cutoff dates move ahead. What is the harm in pro-actively moving the cutiff dates, to amek sure no visa gets wasted. I think focussing on avoiding visa wastage itself will reduce this retrogression mess to a big extent
If the USCSI didnt have enough applications to be assigned the VISA , then why are they so conservative in making the cutoff dates move ahead. What is the harm in pro-actively moving the cutiff dates, to amek sure no visa gets wasted. I think focussing on avoiding visa wastage itself will reduce this retrogression mess to a big extent
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somegchuh
01-02 06:43 PM
Folks,
I know this has been discussed in the past on this and other message boards but I wanted to hear some more opinions about it. What is the value of green card to you?
I know different ppl have different reasons like ability to switch jobs, ability to travel freely, ability to have a job for spouse etc. All said and done how many of you would like to go back to your home countries in the next 5-6 years? I know a lot of people have issues such as aging parents back home or they simply don't see themselves living in a foreign land forever. I guess my question is what percentage of ppl aspiring for a GC view it as a convenience vs percentage of ppl who actually see it as a path to settling down in US for good.
Thanks
I know this has been discussed in the past on this and other message boards but I wanted to hear some more opinions about it. What is the value of green card to you?
I know different ppl have different reasons like ability to switch jobs, ability to travel freely, ability to have a job for spouse etc. All said and done how many of you would like to go back to your home countries in the next 5-6 years? I know a lot of people have issues such as aging parents back home or they simply don't see themselves living in a foreign land forever. I guess my question is what percentage of ppl aspiring for a GC view it as a convenience vs percentage of ppl who actually see it as a path to settling down in US for good.
Thanks
pappu
06-02 11:04 PM
Ironical, isn't it? This diatribe coming from someone whose handle is "BigLoser"!! From which mushrooom did you crawl under?
Thanks, but no thanks!
Jayant
Thank you for the troll alert. The post is deleted. Please inform when you find such post.
Any post from such users will mean immediate ban without any warning. All moderators will be very strict during these months. We get lot of traffic from anti immigrants and we dont have time for their nonsense. They can take it anywhere else they want and sulk. Bye bye BigLoser. You have just been banned!
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Thanks, but no thanks!
Jayant
Thank you for the troll alert. The post is deleted. Please inform when you find such post.
Any post from such users will mean immediate ban without any warning. All moderators will be very strict during these months. We get lot of traffic from anti immigrants and we dont have time for their nonsense. They can take it anywhere else they want and sulk. Bye bye BigLoser. You have just been banned!
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guy03062
04-25 09:56 AM
Well there is definite gain for people who came here earlier which is more fair system. For example, I came in USA in 12/1997 but my PD is 06/2005. If someone who came to USA in 2003 (after 5 years I came) and is lucky to apply GC...lucky to get his labor+140 approved, he would get PD earlier than me!!
It may not help at all.
Chances are once you make the arrival date as the priority date, USCIS/DOS would set the cut-off dates to reflect the earlier PD's. For example if it is now May 2001, it could retrogress to May 1995. I don't see any gains there.
It may not help at all.
Chances are once you make the arrival date as the priority date, USCIS/DOS would set the cut-off dates to reflect the earlier PD's. For example if it is now May 2001, it could retrogress to May 1995. I don't see any gains there.
mirage
08-18 02:52 PM
Please don't wait to reach a consenus on the content, take a cue from this letter and modify it to put your own experience..bottomline is to get the word out to Senator Cornyn & Rep. Lofgren. I am sure they will do something if we can get them this info...
Please continue to post your comments on the letter - the sooner we can all agree upon the content, the sooner we can start sending these out.
Also, is there a possibility of having a common meeting (all retrogressed EB3 candidates) with Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren expressing our situation - just a thought.
Please continue to post your comments on the letter - the sooner we can all agree upon the content, the sooner we can start sending these out.
Also, is there a possibility of having a common meeting (all retrogressed EB3 candidates) with Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren expressing our situation - just a thought.
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mirage
08-03 11:45 PM
Pani,
Thanks for Drafting this letter. I would add Rep. Zoe Logfren(Chairwoman of the immigartion subcommittee in the house & Senator John Cornyn Chairman of the immigartion subcommittee in the Senate) officials usually respond when things are addressed to Lawmakers too..
Guys please send out this letter.
I will appreciate if you could add these 2 in your 'Copy to' section...
Senator John Cornyn
Chairman - United States Senate Judiciary subCommittee on
Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship
517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-2934
Fax: 202-228-2856
Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren
Chairwoman - United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship,
Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Thanks
Thanks for Drafting this letter. I would add Rep. Zoe Logfren(Chairwoman of the immigartion subcommittee in the house & Senator John Cornyn Chairman of the immigartion subcommittee in the Senate) officials usually respond when things are addressed to Lawmakers too..
Guys please send out this letter.
I will appreciate if you could add these 2 in your 'Copy to' section...
Senator John Cornyn
Chairman - United States Senate Judiciary subCommittee on
Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship
517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
Main: 202-224-2934
Fax: 202-228-2856
Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren
Chairwoman - United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship,
Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Thanks
snathan
08-23 03:02 PM
It is not the right thing -- from your perspective, because you can't take advantage of it. From the USA point of view multinational executives can potentially create jobs and that's why they must be allowed
You may call it "loophole", based on your understanding of it. However the reality may be different and larger than what you see. So don't axe the branch you are sitting on!
You call the guy with Bsc/bcom and have the 4 programmers reporting to him is the multinational executive. As you might get benefit from it you can call whatever you want.
You may call it "loophole", based on your understanding of it. However the reality may be different and larger than what you see. So don't axe the branch you are sitting on!
You call the guy with Bsc/bcom and have the 4 programmers reporting to him is the multinational executive. As you might get benefit from it you can call whatever you want.
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swissgear
08-24 12:00 AM
Context is everything
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS. And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS. And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
ashutrip
06-19 08:24 AM
NO , Atlanta handles all the traffic for East coast and South , whereas Chicao handles the traffic for the West and the Midwest .
Anybody on forum...whose labor was certified off late!!:confused:
Anybody on forum...whose labor was certified off late!!:confused:
eb3_nepa
07-16 12:47 AM
Common people just $150 short. Pacific time people. Please help. We need 30 good souls from the West coast :)
new2gc
08-13 11:49 AM
Most of the Indian companies (TCS, Wipro, Infy, etc) have more than 50% H1Bs, I believe.
They will bring/hire more resources to near shore (if not onsite) Brazil/Canada to satisfy clients...This year the demand for H1b is around 25K.... next year that may go down to 10-15K... good for future EB -AOS applicants.. :-)
They will bring/hire more resources to near shore (if not onsite) Brazil/Canada to satisfy clients...This year the demand for H1b is around 25K.... next year that may go down to 10-15K... good for future EB -AOS applicants.. :-)
tejonidhi
09-11 09:26 PM
Who is uscis answerable to ? how about sending letters to all the congress man and senators asking them to raise theor voice about the functionality of uscis?
Can AILA take this and prepare a law suite for us?
I am ready to contribute.
Can AILA take this and prepare a law suite for us?
I am ready to contribute.
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