chi_shark
02-23 01:38 PM
Here start the fresh round of stories. Now we will hear many stories like this but don't know what to believe until it actually happens. I just hope (and pray) that what you said is true and Govt start treating legals and illegals separately.
Thanks.
So, did anyone else hear anything similar? i am VERY excited about this... but dont know anything about what to make of it... maybe he was just saying it because my face looked tense?????? ha ha ha... no seriously, i dont know what to make of him and his information...
Thanks.
So, did anyone else hear anything similar? i am VERY excited about this... but dont know anything about what to make of it... maybe he was just saying it because my face looked tense?????? ha ha ha... no seriously, i dont know what to make of him and his information...
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jayleno
09-15 04:30 PM
Buddy,
If a majority of members on IV are not in support of your idea, would you agree that its not fair to organize these kind of things on IV forum? I can imagine how hard it was for the people to bring this organization to this stage. While you haven't contributed much, you are trying to break it up for your own selfish reasons. God knows if you will really benefit anything out of this. How different are you from anti-immigrants who claim that immigrants are stealing American jobs?
Can you change the poll to include EB2 people who do not intend to support you idea? You say a number of people are supporting you...and 6 is a number? What is the percentage?
I have not raised anything yet. We do have a number of members ready to support. We are getting there. People, please come forward. Lets get this thing going.
Send me a PM if you are not sure about posting on the forums here.
If a majority of members on IV are not in support of your idea, would you agree that its not fair to organize these kind of things on IV forum? I can imagine how hard it was for the people to bring this organization to this stage. While you haven't contributed much, you are trying to break it up for your own selfish reasons. God knows if you will really benefit anything out of this. How different are you from anti-immigrants who claim that immigrants are stealing American jobs?
Can you change the poll to include EB2 people who do not intend to support you idea? You say a number of people are supporting you...and 6 is a number? What is the percentage?
I have not raised anything yet. We do have a number of members ready to support. We are getting there. People, please come forward. Lets get this thing going.
Send me a PM if you are not sure about posting on the forums here.
nareshg
10-09 12:56 AM
Was there a similar thread started by pappu ?
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07-14 01:03 PM
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langagadu
03-04 12:19 PM
do have your 140 approved?
Doesnt seem like anything is cooking at TSC! I-140 and I-485 still shows
"On Oct 1st 2007 we received....blah blah blah...."
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Doesnt seem like anything is cooking at TSC! I-140 and I-485 still shows
"On Oct 1st 2007 we received....blah blah blah...."
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psvk
07-11 11:08 AM
Not to put any dampers here, but this is extremely frustrating for the EB3 India folks. I mean how freakin long do WE have to wait before we get our turn!
Nothing against EB2 or other, at least let them enjoy the freedom.
It is really frustrating, because of the mistake by the attorney or stupid company policy etc, people like us with pd 2001 etc waiting on EB3. In my case I had PG with 7 yrs exp when filing, but for the stupid lawyer and company policy. putting aside the original classification of categories, given the present scenario, Not sure what way EB2 is better than EB3
Nothing against EB2 or other, at least let them enjoy the freedom.
It is really frustrating, because of the mistake by the attorney or stupid company policy etc, people like us with pd 2001 etc waiting on EB3. In my case I had PG with 7 yrs exp when filing, but for the stupid lawyer and company policy. putting aside the original classification of categories, given the present scenario, Not sure what way EB2 is better than EB3
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uma001
09-27 09:44 AM
Landed on 03/1997 on H1B. Didn't file for GC until 2003 as plan was to work for 2-3 years, get into an MBA program, and then go back.
MBA resulted in loans of $120K which in turn meant spending some more time in the US which resulted in buying a house which resulted in even bigger loan.
Now living the American "dream" on EAD.
You must be earning more than the debts you have from MBA per year. With that you should have paid the loans.
MBA resulted in loans of $120K which in turn meant spending some more time in the US which resulted in buying a house which resulted in even bigger loan.
Now living the American "dream" on EAD.
You must be earning more than the debts you have from MBA per year. With that you should have paid the loans.
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07-09 06:18 PM
I live in Irvine. Count me in.
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DDLMODES
07-06 10:53 AM
OK can u explain how this info can be used against us...what the heck did we do?
We did not do anything but we are in the middle of it as future applicants thay will go through the same process.
If they decide that this process is a threat to security because they do not check people good enough how would that help us in any way ?
You know that's all they will care about in this whole process, right ? Once the public and the press gets that idea, is only downhill from there...
:(
We did not do anything but we are in the middle of it as future applicants thay will go through the same process.
If they decide that this process is a threat to security because they do not check people good enough how would that help us in any way ?
You know that's all they will care about in this whole process, right ? Once the public and the press gets that idea, is only downhill from there...
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WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
09-05 11:22 PM
I missed the boat in 2007. I think the bigger point here is that people vent their frustration of their GC journey only in a blog hiding their identity. When it comes to real work of meeting people, most hide under their bed..
If the July 2007 fiasco hadn't happened, we wouldn't have had this mess. Most waiting on GC would have quit and gone home making the line shorter :rolleyes:
(The last line is sarcastic)
I think even if the July fiasco wouldn't have happened we would have been in the same situation. Who would want to leave this country and go back. Many people who have applied in EB3 in 2004 -2006 know that they are stuck for another 6 - 15 years but they are still willing to wait.
If the July 2007 fiasco hadn't happened, we wouldn't have had this mess. Most waiting on GC would have quit and gone home making the line shorter :rolleyes:
(The last line is sarcastic)
I think even if the July fiasco wouldn't have happened we would have been in the same situation. Who would want to leave this country and go back. Many people who have applied in EB3 in 2004 -2006 know that they are stuck for another 6 - 15 years but they are still willing to wait.
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priti8888
07-23 04:08 PM
That gives me some hope..My PD is EB3 India Oct 2004...I am filing 485 now..hope I get GC in 2 years from now!!!!
I am sure you'll get GC by the end on this year or early next year. I might have called USCIS abt 15-20 times and from what I understand dates would retrogress for eb3 India, but not horribly. My guess in of the total applications in August 30% have older PD 02/03/04. Becuause pf PERM processing majority are 05/06/07.
I am sure you'll get GC by the end on this year or early next year. I might have called USCIS abt 15-20 times and from what I understand dates would retrogress for eb3 India, but not horribly. My guess in of the total applications in August 30% have older PD 02/03/04. Becuause pf PERM processing majority are 05/06/07.
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gccube
07-18 07:10 PM
Lets say your PD is/was current in March, April, June and July. You decided not to apply in the previous months and you finally submitted at the end of July. On the other hand i had my PD current on July and i applied. After i applied and before you applied there could be 10k(for example) applications. Now when its time to process application which one they should process yours or mine?. Obviously they will process the one that they got first. They not going to look for the PD and pull out your's from the pile of applications. Its your fault that you have not applied early enough even though your PD was current.
what happens when dates retrogress? If my PD is 2000 Jan (assume) and some one else has 2001 Jan (assume) with RDs July/2007 and Mar/2007 respectively and in August 2007 PD cut off date went back to 2000 Feb (assume) then does it mean that 2000 Jan PD is ineligible to get the adjudication before the guy with PD 2001 Jan because the RD is later for this case? Again if the answer to this question is yes then ,when the PD is set at 2000 Feb why are they accepting new AOS apps which satisfy this PD cutoff date because if they process by RD(at all times) they are not likely to consider these for adjudication anyway? Is it just for our benifit that we can get an EAD? If I go down this path I donot understand the purpose of the whole PD in this process.
The thing I am trying to understand is 'if PD is not significant in AOS why is it there at all in the visa bulletin'. If RD overrides the PD at the AOS stage then instead of specifying a PD in the Visa bulletin they can just say that
"We are accepting new AOS applications" and then adjudicate them in the order of the RD.
These are all just my thoughts and am trying to put them together. I may very well be wrong in my basic understanding of this process. Thank you for your previous reply. That was helpful.
what happens when dates retrogress? If my PD is 2000 Jan (assume) and some one else has 2001 Jan (assume) with RDs July/2007 and Mar/2007 respectively and in August 2007 PD cut off date went back to 2000 Feb (assume) then does it mean that 2000 Jan PD is ineligible to get the adjudication before the guy with PD 2001 Jan because the RD is later for this case? Again if the answer to this question is yes then ,when the PD is set at 2000 Feb why are they accepting new AOS apps which satisfy this PD cutoff date because if they process by RD(at all times) they are not likely to consider these for adjudication anyway? Is it just for our benifit that we can get an EAD? If I go down this path I donot understand the purpose of the whole PD in this process.
The thing I am trying to understand is 'if PD is not significant in AOS why is it there at all in the visa bulletin'. If RD overrides the PD at the AOS stage then instead of specifying a PD in the Visa bulletin they can just say that
"We are accepting new AOS applications" and then adjudicate them in the order of the RD.
These are all just my thoughts and am trying to put them together. I may very well be wrong in my basic understanding of this process. Thank you for your previous reply. That was helpful.
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yoda
09-11 11:20 PM
Thanks for your thread on this Pappu, I was just about to create this thread.
So here goes the first draft:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dear XXXX,
Thousands of SKILLED LEGAL professionals, such as Scientists, Doctors, University Professors, Engineers, MBA's, Health Care Professionals and other professionals from all over the country who have contributed billions to the US ecomony are planning to participate in an unprecedented rally in the nation's capital on Tuesday, Sept. 18th to draw the attention of US lawmakers and American public towards excessive delays and backlogs in the Employment based Immigration system.
A group of rally participants from [your state] is meeting with Senators XXX and XXX with the hope of taking their help in supporting legislative changes to the Employment based Immigration system.
This peaceful rally is being organized by Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org), a grass-roots advocacy group of high-skilled legal immigrants.
For more information, please visit the following links:
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.html
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.pdf
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.doc
Since this is an unprecedented event from a very quiet group who have always remained in the sidelines of the recent Immigration debates, please provide visibility to this event so the plight of these law abiding, tax paying, highly educated people is spread among a larger group of people that would help drive the required legislative changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
State coordinators, please take up this responsibility and work with your team to get this done. I will be coordinating with the people in NH and MA. Lets fire off on all the cylinders now for the final big takeoff...
So here goes the first draft:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dear XXXX,
Thousands of SKILLED LEGAL professionals, such as Scientists, Doctors, University Professors, Engineers, MBA's, Health Care Professionals and other professionals from all over the country who have contributed billions to the US ecomony are planning to participate in an unprecedented rally in the nation's capital on Tuesday, Sept. 18th to draw the attention of US lawmakers and American public towards excessive delays and backlogs in the Employment based Immigration system.
A group of rally participants from [your state] is meeting with Senators XXX and XXX with the hope of taking their help in supporting legislative changes to the Employment based Immigration system.
This peaceful rally is being organized by Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org), a grass-roots advocacy group of high-skilled legal immigrants.
For more information, please visit the following links:
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.html
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.pdf
//http://www.touchdownusa.org/RallyCentral/WashingtonDCRallyPressRelease.doc
Since this is an unprecedented event from a very quiet group who have always remained in the sidelines of the recent Immigration debates, please provide visibility to this event so the plight of these law abiding, tax paying, highly educated people is spread among a larger group of people that would help drive the required legislative changes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
State coordinators, please take up this responsibility and work with your team to get this done. I will be coordinating with the people in NH and MA. Lets fire off on all the cylinders now for the final big takeoff...
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hopefulgc
09-12 11:20 AM
i like this idea too ... and we need to send copies ot NYtimes, washington post, usatoday, etc
In my opinion, we should do this:
Just send two information to USCIS, DOS, President, VP, First Lady and all Congress person of the following:
1. 1st info should have a photocopy of our degree certificate(s). On the same page, print your expereince in years and total tax paid till date to the US government.
2. On a fresh page, type in all the H1B/L VISA approval information and type in bold, we were wanted/invited here legally (and admitted via H1/L).
And, mention that our I140 is approved which means the immigration department has validated our eligibility to become PR.
Ask a question (larger font) on the same page, why keep us on limbo?
This would keep the whole thing short and sweet. We are explicitly saying that we are legals. And we were invited here - legally. We are approved by immigration team to be a PR.
If we could send couple of thousands of letters, I am sure it would have impact as much as any other letter we have in mind.
We are not humiliating them, we are just expressing our frustrations but in mass. May be we can say something like, "Legal Techie slaves in the land of liberty" or "Immigration process that enslave Legal Techies". But, we should keep it short.
As always, ignore this idea if you guys dont like it.
In my opinion, we should do this:
Just send two information to USCIS, DOS, President, VP, First Lady and all Congress person of the following:
1. 1st info should have a photocopy of our degree certificate(s). On the same page, print your expereince in years and total tax paid till date to the US government.
2. On a fresh page, type in all the H1B/L VISA approval information and type in bold, we were wanted/invited here legally (and admitted via H1/L).
And, mention that our I140 is approved which means the immigration department has validated our eligibility to become PR.
Ask a question (larger font) on the same page, why keep us on limbo?
This would keep the whole thing short and sweet. We are explicitly saying that we are legals. And we were invited here - legally. We are approved by immigration team to be a PR.
If we could send couple of thousands of letters, I am sure it would have impact as much as any other letter we have in mind.
We are not humiliating them, we are just expressing our frustrations but in mass. May be we can say something like, "Legal Techie slaves in the land of liberty" or "Immigration process that enslave Legal Techies". But, we should keep it short.
As always, ignore this idea if you guys dont like it.
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manugee
09-10 02:26 PM
Though small, I made my contribution ($100 via Google).
I can't make it to the rally this tuesday but just trying to do whatever I can to support the cause.
Good luck,
Manish Jain.
I can't make it to the rally this tuesday but just trying to do whatever I can to support the cause.
Good luck,
Manish Jain.
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xyzgc
02-09 07:05 AM
Wow, there you go! How come it becomes not 'stupid' when a girl spends husband's money to support her parents?
This, effectively, means that if the girl stops earning for any reason such as pregnancy or is unable to earn, she immediately forfeits the right to send money to her parents. This is the most illogical statement I have ever heard.
And it also means that for any reason, if a girl remains a house wife, she has no right to send any money to the parents like you, as the earning member, do.
This is the very strange attitude that may get a marriage in trouble.
Why shouldn't a husband send money to his parents from his earnings? The husband and wife can talk about it and based on circumstances take a decision.
BUT if the girl takes for granted her rights to spend for her parents from husband's earnings, then it becomes an issue!
Did I even say husband shouldn't send money to his parents from his earnings?
But shouldn't that be also need-based? How come it is the right of the husband to send any amount of money he wants to his parents without the wife complaining and how come it becomes a case of "taking for granted" when a non-earning wife wants to send money to her folks in need? This is a hypothetical situation and nothing to do with OP's case.
And then how is it we, husbands, are the first ones to start complaining when our wives don't get a share of our in-laws property following their demise?
And tell me then, following a divorce why are there laws which require you to split your net worth evenly with your non-working ex-wife? Is that acceptable to you then or you want to put forth an argument that "hey, we don't have a child and she is no longer my wife and so I am not obligated to give her a dime"
This, effectively, means that if the girl stops earning for any reason such as pregnancy or is unable to earn, she immediately forfeits the right to send money to her parents. This is the most illogical statement I have ever heard.
And it also means that for any reason, if a girl remains a house wife, she has no right to send any money to the parents like you, as the earning member, do.
This is the very strange attitude that may get a marriage in trouble.
Why shouldn't a husband send money to his parents from his earnings? The husband and wife can talk about it and based on circumstances take a decision.
BUT if the girl takes for granted her rights to spend for her parents from husband's earnings, then it becomes an issue!
Did I even say husband shouldn't send money to his parents from his earnings?
But shouldn't that be also need-based? How come it is the right of the husband to send any amount of money he wants to his parents without the wife complaining and how come it becomes a case of "taking for granted" when a non-earning wife wants to send money to her folks in need? This is a hypothetical situation and nothing to do with OP's case.
And then how is it we, husbands, are the first ones to start complaining when our wives don't get a share of our in-laws property following their demise?
And tell me then, following a divorce why are there laws which require you to split your net worth evenly with your non-working ex-wife? Is that acceptable to you then or you want to put forth an argument that "hey, we don't have a child and she is no longer my wife and so I am not obligated to give her a dime"
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arnab221
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Kill 2 birds with the same stone . Nice . Weigh loss + Green card Gain
conchshell
06-10 10:57 AM
So July visa bulletin is out ... we will see comments with frustation and appeals to fight for the cause ... however, this is a prediction thread, so my prediction is that by next week, all affected people will accept the reality and will move on with their life waiting for August visa bulletin or for the next year quota. My purpose is not to offend anyone, but this is just the observation we all had in the past, so why this time around its going to be any different?
Now as far as those three bills are concerned ... at times I feel that they are just pacifiers to amuse the crying babies. We all can see that immigration related bill (fashion models, regional investors etc) are getting passed, but not the one's that we really want. Therefore hearings in the sub-committie and than in full hearings will go on till August, and afterwards presidential election will be the focus ... immigration reforms will take a back seat. New administration in 2009 will have more immediate priorities to fix the economy, war, etc. Immigration will eventually appear on the radar, but only after some time.
So only movement I can see in near future is EB3 to EB2 conversion. That's OK too. because everyone has a right to straddle the lanes. Out of that stampede, some will get approved, some will get rejected, and will create more mess in the system. But that's inevitable ... and if a mass transition happens, USCIS will have no other option to bring in yet another rule to make their life easy, we all can guess ... what that may be ... I think this is one of the reasons why USCIS does not allow 140 premium processing anymore. Now those who are hopefull for EB2, my message is that USCIS can very easily justify visa wastage this year because of the extra load they got from Citizenship applications. Personally, I do not have much hope of USCIS working efficiently.
I am not trying to spread pessimism, but just giving my predictions. We all need to think hard, as to how can we come out of this mess. Flower campaign worked once, but doesn't mean that its gonna be effective again and again.
Now as far as those three bills are concerned ... at times I feel that they are just pacifiers to amuse the crying babies. We all can see that immigration related bill (fashion models, regional investors etc) are getting passed, but not the one's that we really want. Therefore hearings in the sub-committie and than in full hearings will go on till August, and afterwards presidential election will be the focus ... immigration reforms will take a back seat. New administration in 2009 will have more immediate priorities to fix the economy, war, etc. Immigration will eventually appear on the radar, but only after some time.
So only movement I can see in near future is EB3 to EB2 conversion. That's OK too. because everyone has a right to straddle the lanes. Out of that stampede, some will get approved, some will get rejected, and will create more mess in the system. But that's inevitable ... and if a mass transition happens, USCIS will have no other option to bring in yet another rule to make their life easy, we all can guess ... what that may be ... I think this is one of the reasons why USCIS does not allow 140 premium processing anymore. Now those who are hopefull for EB2, my message is that USCIS can very easily justify visa wastage this year because of the extra load they got from Citizenship applications. Personally, I do not have much hope of USCIS working efficiently.
I am not trying to spread pessimism, but just giving my predictions. We all need to think hard, as to how can we come out of this mess. Flower campaign worked once, but doesn't mean that its gonna be effective again and again.
Imm_Exploited
07-24 10:59 PM
priti8888
Congratulations!! Enjoy your freedom.
My PD is October 2003 (EB2 India) and I have always detested the fact that in some states the LC used to be approved very fast. If I remember correctly, the LC approvals used to have a state-wise bulletins prior to PERM and there was a time when in states like Maine, some got their GCs within a year of filing their LC. The majority unlucky ones got stuck in red tape racist states and LCs were moved to BECs.
priti888's LC was approved before December 2004 and she was able to file I-140 + I-485 concurrently in December 2004 becuase EB3 India was 'C' in December 2004 VB (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1343.html).
The title of the thread if funny (like the Monday Headlines in Jay Leno's Show) - card production ordered!!! July 23th :) instead of July 23rd
LuckyPaji - I don't even want to attempt to respond to his case. His explanantion that he has an undergraduate degree from Punjab is too clean and too good to be true.
Visa Allotment or Assigning of Visas by USCIS - I cannot digest the assumption that USCIS/DOS/DOL are fools and there is no coordination among them to know who from which country has applied for GC under which category. These Govt. agencies are so efficient that they can even go through these forums and connect IDs here to applications. It is a piece of cake for them to find out the entire background of an applicant as soon as even the LC is filed. They very well know who is stuck with which employer in which state and what stage and to whom they are approving the GCs. If the employers are Americans, they can even call the DOL and ask them to hold the LC approval because they know that once their employees get their GCs they will quit them.
I am not trying to be negative and pessimistic, but please think about the chances of immigrants sueing these Govt. agencies during any of the stages in GC process and winning the lawsuit. And ofcourse, the immigration lawyers are too happy with the retrogressions and the way the immigration system works in this country.
Congratulations!! Enjoy your freedom.
My PD is October 2003 (EB2 India) and I have always detested the fact that in some states the LC used to be approved very fast. If I remember correctly, the LC approvals used to have a state-wise bulletins prior to PERM and there was a time when in states like Maine, some got their GCs within a year of filing their LC. The majority unlucky ones got stuck in red tape racist states and LCs were moved to BECs.
priti888's LC was approved before December 2004 and she was able to file I-140 + I-485 concurrently in December 2004 becuase EB3 India was 'C' in December 2004 VB (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1343.html).
The title of the thread if funny (like the Monday Headlines in Jay Leno's Show) - card production ordered!!! July 23th :) instead of July 23rd
LuckyPaji - I don't even want to attempt to respond to his case. His explanantion that he has an undergraduate degree from Punjab is too clean and too good to be true.
Visa Allotment or Assigning of Visas by USCIS - I cannot digest the assumption that USCIS/DOS/DOL are fools and there is no coordination among them to know who from which country has applied for GC under which category. These Govt. agencies are so efficient that they can even go through these forums and connect IDs here to applications. It is a piece of cake for them to find out the entire background of an applicant as soon as even the LC is filed. They very well know who is stuck with which employer in which state and what stage and to whom they are approving the GCs. If the employers are Americans, they can even call the DOL and ask them to hold the LC approval because they know that once their employees get their GCs they will quit them.
I am not trying to be negative and pessimistic, but please think about the chances of immigrants sueing these Govt. agencies during any of the stages in GC process and winning the lawsuit. And ofcourse, the immigration lawyers are too happy with the retrogressions and the way the immigration system works in this country.
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